i know only adultery is supposed to be grounds for "scriptural" divorce.
i'm a wicked apostate in their eyes, but my believing husband and i still can't get a divorce that would allow him to remarry.
we currently are separated - i have left him.
It's grounds for separation in the sense of protecting one's spiruality and relationship with Jehovah.
If you start dating again, however, he could have scriptural grounds to divorce you if they suspect you of fornication. Or if you re-marry. Then he can re-marry.
This situation happened with my parents.
just found out last night that our congo is starting a campaign to invite interested people to meetings.
the instructions for the campaign clear out that "interested" people are not just those whom we visit often or have bible studies with.
it includes and random stranger we may talk to and who may show a hint of interest on the religion.
Yeah, mine gave these out this week too. Smells like desperation.
i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.
i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.
yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.
@sir82, true. I'm sure the goal is to make it easier for pioneers to stay pioneers and to make more pioneers.
i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.
i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.
yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.
Fun fact: if a brother with a special skill (electrictian, plumber, etc) is doing work on a KH, he gets to count that as time, including his driving time to get to that hall. Also, if his wife accompanies him, she also counts that time even if all she does is sit and read while he works.
Time counting is a complete sham.
i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.
i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.
yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.
Yeah, it's actually encouraged. All the pioneers I know don't even get out the car, rain or shine. Said they only come over to the cart when someone flags them over, which is probably never. So they love it.
l was just wondering if they actually get off their fat plump bums (over fed) and set an example of door to door witnessing..
One of the GB members gave a talk at my convention years ago and made the statement that he couldn't wait for the new world because he hated field service. Said he can't wait for when people slamming doors in his face or waking up early on saturdays will be no more.
I remember being very shocked during this talk because the publications all say we are supposed to love going out in service but yet here was a GB member saying he hated it. I can't remember which member it was, either Herd or Morris. They're the only ones I've ever seen in person.
I don't know if they still go door to door, but I wouldn't be surprised if they count the broadcasts and any "theocratic service" as time. After all, I know some who count time whenever they go repair the Kingdom Halls. Both the brother AND his wife get to count that time.
in jw theology, what happens to adam and eve?
are they resurrected and become heirs to paradise on earth?
or will they become two of the heavenly class?
In the first chapter of the new Imitate Their Faith book, Adam and Eve were called unrepentant, which I did not agree with since there is nothing in the Bible that suggests that. Who wouldn't be repentant especially if you were tricked by A SNAKE FFS. The line of thinking was that Abel had it so hard since none of his family members were "in the truth" yet he was loyal to god. But there is no evidence that can suggest that his parents weren't serving god.
To be honest, that book helped me really start to see how the Org cleverly words things to spin stories. There's a lot of "it's reasonable to conclude" or "just imagine..." or "this may have been going through [bible character]'s mind." And I remember telling my husband how disappointed I was with the book (I had genuinely been looking forward to it) because I found it to be a book of assumptions and little fact.
i was watching a jw video where the announcement was made of a young lady's being disfellowshiped, and it happened in a regular kh sunday meeting.
this struck me as being a bit...cold.
is this when the shunning begins?
@Cold Steel, you can get reproved for anything you can get disfellowshipped for. All it means is that the person seemed repentant in the judicial committee vs a disfellowshipping which means the person displayed an unrepentant attitude. But really it just boils down to if you've convinced your committee that you are sorry. Doesn't matter if you actually are or not, but they have to believe you. And it also depends on what kind of elders you get: harsh or forgiving.
things you can get reproved for: sex, drugs, gambling, and whatever else is in the flock book (conveniently not available to rank and file.)
i was watching a jw video where the announcement was made of a young lady's being disfellowshiped, and it happened in a regular kh sunday meeting.
this struck me as being a bit...cold.
is this when the shunning begins?
I haven't been disfellowshipped, but I was publicly reproved once. I was told by my JC that I had to be present for the announcement or else they'd revisit their decision and disfellowship me (I was a teenager). So a part of being present for an announcement is to shame the individual. If you don't show up then it's assumed you aren't very repentant.
i know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.
i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.
what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.
I never truly believed it personally and never really liked talking about it for that reason. It was this thing I grew up hearing but couldn't be fully invested in so I rarely thought about the future. I always thought it would be far more likely that I would live out my life and die of old age and (hopefully) be resurrected when everything was over. To be honest, that's what I hoped for because the thought of living through Armageddon/the great tribulation really terrified me.
My dad was/is definitely a believer and would always tell me that "this system probably won't be around by the time you finish school." I even had an elder say "we never thought you guys would get this old in this system." Well, I graduated a decade ago and it's still here.
